Phenomena of faith: religious dimensions of conflicts and peace.
Is religious conflict on the rise, or are we just beginning to
focus on a phenomenon that has been going on for a long time?
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I think the latter, but let us consider ethnopolitical conflict in
general, without reference to religion. Ted Robert Gurr reports, after
reviewing some 275 minorities worldwide, that, as of 1995, there was a
fairly sharp decrease in ethnonational conflict. Governments began to
get the point that if you deal more accommodatingly with minorities and
extend to them some degree of tolerance and nondiscrimination, there are
fewer conflicts. Gurr is able to point to a number of new developments
in that direction.
I would say that Gurr's conclusion probably applies to
religiously influenced conflict as well. Jonathan Fox, whose studies
expand on Gurr's work and apply it more directly to religious
conflict, confirms the same conclusion. So on one hand, it appears there
is a general decline in religious conflict, and that is very
encouraging.
That does not mean that we have seen the end of long-term,
intransigent forms of conflict that are religiously influenced. I use
that term rather than "religious conflict," because I do not
think conflict is all about religion; it is about politics, economics,
nationalism, and a whole range of things. But conflict is religiously
influenced in numerous cases, for example, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and
Israel-Palestine.
Religion plays a role in conflicts like these in three ways:
legitimation, recruitment, and peace settlements. Any analysis of the
Israel-Palestine conflict, for example, will have to take account of the
way religion is used on both sides to justify armed conflict and to
mobilize warriors. In order to work out a stable peace agreement,
religion must also be accounted for in regard to the disposition of the
holy sites and holy places. Religion is not the only question, but such
considerations do show that religion plays a role.
My general point is that ethnonational conflicts and religiously
influenced ones are on the decline, but that there continue to be a
number of very difficult, rather intransigent conflicts in which
religion plays an important role, such as Sudan, Sri Lanka, the
festering situation in Tibet, and Israel-Palestine. There are two
conflicts that I think have improved: Northern Ireland and Bosnia.
Opinions differ as to how important religion is in these conflicts, but
I believe a strong case can be made. So, there are two fairly recent
examples of ethnoreligious conflict that are improving.
Are governments understanding the need for accommodation of
minorities because of something that the international community has
done, or is it a spontaneous development?
Gurr refers to this development as a "contagion," which
leaves it a little bit unclear exactly how the message gets across. Gurr
speaks in an earlier work, Minorities At Risk, of a contagion in the
opposite direction, namely, toward increasing violence, and there he has
in mind the importance of the Internet and other forms of communication
as a way of spreading the message of minority rebellion. You can of
course make a similar point with respect to international terrorism. So,
up until 1995, according to Gurr, insurgent groups interacted
internationally and influenced one another. In addition, diaspora
communities worked in various ways to intensify conflict by providing
money and adding encouragement.
After 1995, Gurr finds governments changing their attitudes toward
minorities and discovering new, more cooperative ways of settling
differences. The fact that governments and minorities share common
interests in working out patterns of peaceful coexistence, then, becomes
the new message that gets spread abroad by means of the internet, media,
etc. Contagion works both ways.
The international community plays an important role in this
process. For example, more and more attention has been given in human
rights circles to the importance of minority and indigenous rights, as,
for instance, in the Draft UN Resolution on the Rights of Indigenous
Peoples. In his most recent book, Ethnic Conflict and Global Politics,
Gurr argues that the attention being given to minority rights and
indigenous rights by the international community has had a significant
global effect on changing people's attitudes and expectations. That
is an important influence, I think.
You use Northern Ireland and Bosnia as two examples of drawn-out
conflicts that are finally turning the corner. What deserves credit for
the reduction of conflict in these two cases? Is there a commonality
between the two?
These are different cases. In Bosnia from 1992 to 1995, the United
Nations and NATO engaged in various forms of third-party military and
humanitarian intervention. In Northern Ireland, on the other hand, the
British were the governing body. In that sense, the cases are
dissimilar.
Eventually, however, third-party participation did become important
in resolving the conflict in Northern Ireland. It is clear that US
President Bill Clinton in particular contributed in a very important way
to the peace process by sending US Senator George Mitchell and
supporting his mediation. Mitchell was a third party who proceeded
diplomatically to break the political logjam, in part because he was
backed by Clinton and the United States. Thus, third party
intervention in Northern Ireland was, in the end, very important. That
is a point Gurr makes: third party international mediation is frequently
indispensable in ending ethnopolitical conflict.
I think in both cases the outcomes have been relatively successful.
I am still a bit uncertain whether they are really going to work out,
but Bosnia is certainly in better shape than it was in 1995, and
Northern Ireland is also moving haltingly toward a stable peace. In the
Bosnian case there is, of course, need for continuing international
presence. There was considerable concern when President George W. Bush
took office as to whether his administration would pull US troops out, a
move that, in my view, would have been a severe mistake. We do not have
more than several thousand troops there now; nevertheless, symbolically,
it is important that the international community, including the United
States, continue to provide monitoring and support for the Dayton
Agreement. Without such support, a still fragile situation might quickly
deteriorate.
With respect to how the international community intervenes or
mediates, there is presumably a risk that the actions of a third party,
like the United States, can be seen as imposing democratic values or a
Western mindset on local conflicts. How do we work around that?
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For one thing, it is critical that the local population be on
board. One of the problems with the present situation in Iraq is
precisely that Iraqis were never clearly on board. Perhaps they were
initially, but things were so poorly planned that there was little
attempt or provision for encouraging positive local attitudes.
Let us take Bosnia, in contrast. The Bosnian
community--particularly the Muslims there, and to a lesser degree the
Serbs and Croats--had an enormously welcoming, positive attitude. What
we had hoped for in Iraq we got in Bosnia. Many Bosnians just love
Clinton. They think he was too slow to act, but nevertheless they were
grateful when he finally came around. They admit they still have
problems; the Dayton Agreement is not perfect, but it is the best that
could be expected, and it does preserve a coherent Bosnian entity with
the eventual possibility of full integration with the European
community. On balance, there is the feeling that it was an acceptable
deal.
In Northern Ireland, also, you find varying degrees of support,
reinforced by a general sense of war weariness, since the conflict had
gone on so long. There was a readiness to receive third-party mediation.
That is key. If such reception is not present, intervention breeds
resentment and hostility. There is the feeling that, "You outsiders
are coming in here trying to run the place." I think we see that in
Iraq. In that setting, the United States has essentially discredited
itself. It has managed to alienate large segments of the Iraqi
population. Intervening parties must make sure that at least a majority
of the population will support them and come to see that what is
proposed is a better deal than alternatives. If that is missing,
interveners are really in trouble.
Looking at specific US actions and how the United States justifies
its actions abroad in the war on terror, is the United States adding a
religious dimension to the conflict with its particular rhetoric or
action? Do you think that the recently waged war on terror is
religiously motivated?
I think that for the Bush administration, the religious factor is
undoubtedly important to the so-called war on terror. President Bush
himself has mentioned that freedom is God's gift to humanity and
that the United States is God's instrument to spread that message.
So there is the assumption that the liberation of Iraq is the first step
in a wider religious mission against worldwide terrorism.
Incidentally, Bush's use of religion in this connection is
itself highly controversial. For example, in responding to the terror
threat, he has said things such as: "Our responsibility to history
is already clear: to answer these attacks and rid the world of
evil;" or, "America is the hope of all mankind.... That hope
still lights our way. And the light shines in the darkness." These
are remarkable statements. The suggestion that it is the United
States' responsibility, or the responsibility of any earthly power,
to "rid the world of evil" is close to idolatry from an
orthodox Christian point of view. The second comment is likely to cause
even more distress. It is a surprising adaptation of some famous words
from the New Testament--namely, the opening five verses of the Gospel of
John. President Bush's proposal that it is the United States,
rather than the "the Word of God," that is the source of light
in darkness would be an astounding idea for many Christians.
In Bush's defense, he has been fairly honorable about not
demonizing Islam and trying to distinguish between mainstream and
extremist Islam. He said some good things that have set an appropriate
tone. To be sure, religion is not the only factor in the
administration's war on terror. There are the obvious economic and
geopolitical interests which are quite independent of religion.
Nevertheless, in Bush's mind, the religious factor is significant.
To what degree is terrorism a religious phenomenon?
I think religion has become very important in regard to terrorism.
Bruce Hoffman wrote a book back in the late 1990s called Inside
Terrorism, and he showed statistically that, as of 1995, the incidence
of religiously influenced terrorist acts increased precipitously. So
there is evidence, and my guess is that the number has only gone higher
in the past nine years. We see anecdotal evidence of that everywhere.
Jessica Stern, in her recent book, Terror in the Name of God, indicates
the same thing.
This question about religious terrorism is related to a broader
question: is there a resurgence of religion in general? I think that the
answer is yes, in part. In various sections of the world, such as the
Middle East, there is unquestionably a rise in religious consciousness.
But compared to the period of the Cold War, when religious consciousness
was obscured by or subordinated to ideological concerns, religion
consciousness has, in recent years, become tied to nationalism in a very
overt way. I think this is a crucial point.
Looking around the globe, we see religion invoked again and again
as a warrant or justification for nationalist activity. The claim is
that one ethnic group has a sacred right to political control over a
given territory, and if that group is challenged, it believes it has a
holy obligation to defend its rights, by force if necessary. In that
way, nationalist conflicts take on religious nationalism, and this sets
the context in which the terrorist problem arises in the Islamic world
with a religious dimension.
I do not want to say that this is only true in the case of Islam,
since it applies much more broadly than that. But it is true that
religious nationalism sets the context in which the terrorist problem
arises in the Islamic world. Osama bin Laden can be seen as a kind of
Islamic nationalist. When he looks at Saudi Arabia or Egypt he sees
states that are governed by "apostates" or
"infidels" who are corrupting and polluting the entire Quranic
message. He believes it is his obligation as a devout Muslim to incite armed revolt in order to transform those governments and others like
them. In the long run, of course, he seeks a transnational form of
Islamic rule. However, his immediate target is the radical reform of
Middle Eastern governments in the name of his Islamic ideals.
Palestinian terrorism is a similar example. It has strongly religious
and nationalist features to it. An important objective is to win
independent statehood for the Palestinian people. But for important
segments of the population, as well as for many non-Palestinian Muslims,
that goal also has strong religious significance, and the Palestinian
nationalist struggle is interpreted as part of a wider Islamic campaign.
So the nationalist context is important, I am suggesting, for
understanding the rise of religious terrorism.
Speaking generally about religious nationalism, is it a goal to
make nationalism more secular? Do we ultimately want to see a world in
which nationalist aspirations are not religiously articulated?
That is the debate. The question of religion and nationalism should
be seen, I believe, as part of the basic struggle between liberal and
illiberal nationalism. Liberal nationalism is characterized by
constitutional democracy, including a strong commitment to religious and
ethnic impartiality and inclusiveness, or the equal freedom of all,
regardless of religious and other particularistic forms of identity.
Illiberal nationalism is the opposite. It rejects constitutional
liberalism, equal freedom, and so on, and typically favors religious
and/or ethnic exclusivity and corresponding laws and policies of
discrimination against out-groups. There are, of course, religious
communities that encourage and support both forms of nationalism, and
the critical struggle, religiously speaking--and manifest in one way or
another in virtually all forms of nationalism--is between the
"liberal" and the "illiberal" types of religion. The
former is at home in an inclusive, constitutional democracy, and the
other is not.
As I examine cases of nationalism around the world, I am interested
in the movement toward liberalism or illiberalism. The pattern of
movement in places like Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Northern Ireland can be
plotted, historically, either in a liberal direction or an illiberal
one. My general hypothesis is that the more countries move toward the
illiberal direction, the more conflictual and violence-prone they
become. Conversely, the more they move toward the liberal direction, the
less violent and conflict-prone they are. Economic and political factors
surely play a very important part in all this; it is not just about
religious and ethnic attitudes and government structure. But again and
again, the ethnoreligious aspects of the contest over national control
are significant, I believe.
The debate between liberal and illiberal nationalists is a serious
one because in some countries like Sri Lanka and Sudan, there are
constituencies saying that moving toward democracy means Westernization,
including the increase of sexual immorality, crime, and violence. They
believe they have to return to a more protective environment in which
the government actively favors a particular notion of religious and
ethnic identity, and the enforcement of certain religiously-sanctioned
family values.
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an interview with DAVID LITTLE
DAVID LITTLE is Professor of the Practice in Religion, Ethnicity,
and International Conflict and Faculty Associate at the Weatherhead
Center for International Affairs at Harvard University.